Curse

freekedoutfish · Dec 06, 2007, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by MegaPsycho

*Equips fire-retardant shield of fortitude*

Simple. Wasnt the whole bloody concept of this game supposed to be about your level of skill, not how much ******* time you spend playing?

Is anyone forcing you to earn titles like LDOA? Nope! So dont earn it if you dont want it, dont spend ages doing it if it doesnt apeal.

But the point about why a BMP title would be pointless is as you say; it only took you 3 days to complete. That would be adding a title which can be very easily maxed out within 3 days (most people less I expect). Why do we need that?

I'm all for adding a statue to the HOM, but we dont need a pointless new title that means nothing and can be completed with absolutely no effort at all. We already have too many of them already.

MegaPsycho · Dec 06, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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but we dont need a pointless new title that means nothing and can be completed with absolutely no effort at all. We already have too many of them already.

Ugh, methinks your missing the point. And I would love to hear your definition of effort.

No, BMP didnt take very long, but compared to titles such as Protector and even Guardian, the difficulty was a bit higher, especially clearing the whole map on Saul's story with 60 armor. Also on BMP, you were solo, you cant be run or have someone do it for you, fixed bars, and consumables cant be used unless you use the glitch, and even then it didnt affect your energy or health.

freekedoutfish · Dec 06, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by MegaPsycho

Ugh, methinks your missing the point. And I would love to hear your definition of effort.

No, BMP didnt take very long, but compared to titles such as Protector and even Guardian, the difficulty was a bit higher, especially clearing the whole map on Saul's story with 60 armor. Also on BMP, you were solo, you cant be run or have someone do it for you, fixed bars, and consumables cant be used unless you use the glitch, and even then it didnt affect your energy or health.

And you seem to be completely dodging the fact it would be an extremely easy title to max out. Why do we it?

Give me a reason why we need a title for the BMP! Is getting an exclusive weapon not enough for you? Is getting to play Lure that others cant not enough for you?

Your getting alot already from the BMP that some arent, why do yo want a title?

Randvek · Dec 06, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

I like the idea of a title for BMP. Instead of historian, though, it should be called Blast from the Past (1), haha.

TurtleTurtle · Dec 06, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

/signed for statue/monument/plaque/diploma (or better yet: unlocked bonus item ^^)
/notsigned for title

Shadowmoon · Dec 06, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Actually I found sauls camp clearing and togo keeping talon alive quite difficult, but with 30 minutes to complete all 12 discoveries seem like a gross understatement. Think probably 2-4 hours would be more accurate. I've gotten vanquisher, guardian, and have my HoM with all the elite mission statues, and i think the difficulty is similar to protector title but require less time. Where the skill>time folks at this time:P
Plus i didnt' think about that it being solo, it can't be ran by a runner, so you have to do the work ourself. Also preset skill bar, makes it so you have to use what ur given, not a gimmick or imba skill, for example ursan blessing.
It be nice to add more content like this.
And guess what, not all title are available to all players, if u dont own faction, u can't get savior of the..., if you don't have nightfall u can't get lightbringer. People made the choice for a Box version of GW:en vs BMP, they shouldn't complain now that they made the wrong choice.

Tyla · Dec 06, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

And guess what, not all title are available to all players, if u dont own faction, u can't get savior of the..., if you don't have nightfall u can't get lightbringer. People made the choice for a Box version of GW:en vs BMP, they shouldn't complain now that they made the wrong choice.

but you cant even BUY the bmp no more...
campaigns+expansions can be bought - see the difference?

freekedoutfish · Dec 06, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

People made the choice for a Box version of GW:en vs BMP, they shouldn't complain now that they made the wrong choice.

You think it was a nice casual choice?

Pay £17.99 on play.com or £29.99 on anets online store! Not much of a choice for people who have little funds! Thats alot more to pay just to get the BMP for (as Anet stated it) "free"!

£17.99 for a boxed version you can see and hold and put along side the other boxed versions you own, or £29.99 to just download it and have nothing tantiable!

The BMP is meant to be free when paying £17.99, yet Anet expected us to pay an extra £12 above more competitive prices. So in essence we were expected to pay £12 for the BMP. Sorry but I'm not paying £12 for 4 missions and a few new weapons. At the most its worth around £5 due to the lack of new content it adds.

There was nothing else I wanted for £17.99 from the online store to cover the "free" option. My only choice would have been GWEN at too high a cost!

Anet promoted this completely wrong, because they have now annoyed a % of their market and alientated those who dont like to buy things online and those who didnt want to pay alot more for a game they could get cheaper elsewhere.

They should have offered it free after paying £17.99 and offered it for a stand alone price of around £5-6. That ways people arent being forced to buy other products they might want to buy elsewhere, just to get access to another product.

You dont force people to buy one item to get access to other products. Its not a good marketing scheme and its evident by the number of annoyed GW players.

Divinity Sword · Dec 06, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

/signed

With GW2 on the way I need as many titles to put in my HoM as possible. It's not just cool it's almost necessary. Plus "Historian" title sounds so appealing

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As for the "Extremely easy title to max out" just apply HM to the BMP. That should make it a little bit tough xD.

Better yet, have this title ONLY apply to HoM and not "People know me" or whatever your after.

Shadowmoon · Dec 07, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I'm all for adding a statue to the HOM, but we dont need a pointless new title that means nothing and can be completed with absolutely no effort at all. We already have too many of them already.

How do u know that is takes no effort, you don't have the BMP by your own admission?
I understand arguing that they shouldn't be one because of the lack of access for all players, but arguing that is take no effort when you didn't even play it is talking out your butt.
I wonder how many objection are from people without the BMP honestly. Childish really, pissed they didn't get something because of their choices, so they don't want anyone to have it.

The Meth · Dec 07, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

I wouldn't be against it, as long as you had to do some kind of hard mode + get all 3 bonuses at once or something.

But I'm pretty sure Anet won't continue to add to the BMP, since its much more time-effective to add to a campaign that more people will own and be able to play. Not to mention everything they add to the BMP is 1 more thing people without the BMP will bitch about.

As far as titles needing to have a degree of difficulty... I can get 13 titles using nothing in my skill bar but signets of capture, using henchies and c-spacing.

Nightmare_Pwner · Dec 07, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Titles are stuipd worthless lawl dumbest idea iv ever heard. Now for the Statue that would be a good Idea. And Second you could make it not count towards GWAMM problem solved! But who really cares if it did or not. If I ever saw someone in RL who had God walking amongest mere mortals id kick him in the balls and say get a life.

T. Drake · Dec 07, 2007, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Would this make sense at all?

You play as Turai Ossa etc. in the BMP missions, not your character.

So why should they get a title?

Personally: /idon'tcare

Cargan · Dec 07, 2007, 01:41 AM // 01:41

Until everyone is able to get it through some means or another I don't think there should be any other bonus attached to the BMP other than all the free BMP weapons you get, which is more than anyone really expected to start with. I'm more than happy with the source of free weapons.

Having a statue similar to that of DoA, UW, FoW & SF would only be fair if the BMP was available to everyone. You have to remember that statues in the HoM are supposedly going to equate to another bonus in GW2. Restricting that bonus to only people who got the BMP is going to put half the GW population off getting GW2 because already before it starts they're never able to get something that others have.

It makes very bad business sense to allow that. Not going to happen unless the BMP is available to everyone one way or another.

A11Eur0 · Dec 07, 2007, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Wayyyyy too easy to max this title.

Statue in HoM, sure. Title? Nah.

Personally I'd like a tangible reward for getting all discoveries on the character...more than just more books for characters that can do the books themselves. No idea what this reward would be...maybe an everlasting tonic for the form of one of the four heroes you play as?

MegaPsycho · Dec 07, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Ugh, still, I want a reward other than weapons that cant be put in HoM. I mean seriously, me and my heroes have all the greens Ill ever need for any build, what in hell is the point of these weapons? None of the Paragon or Caster weapons impressed me save for the Necro Undead staff, but even then.....

So basically, I got a staff skin that actually looks *decent* and 32 plat. Whoop-die-doo. I feel cheated, badly.

Cargan · Dec 07, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by MegaPsycho

Ugh, still, I want a reward other than weapons that cant be put in HoM. I mean seriously, me and my heroes have all the greens Ill ever need for any build, what in hell is the point of these weapons? None of the Paragon or Caster weapons impressed me save for the Necro Undead staff, but even then.....

So basically, I got a staff skin that actually looks *decent* and 32 plat. Whoop-die-doo. I feel cheated, badly.

Cheated? Never got your money's worth from this FREE BONUS mission pack?

You got 32 plat for free and you're complaining? How about taking the 32 plat and saying "thank you very much for the generosity Anet"?

so ungrateful.

Shadowmoon · Jan 12, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Well the BMP is now goin to be sold in stores. The issue of it not being available to everyone is out the window. Now I think it should be that if a title track should be part of it seeing how it worth now is $10. GW:EN cost $40 and came with 5 title tracks. I think to give the BMP more bang for it buck, it needs a title track now, otherwize it just 4 missions with 3 bonuses each, and a whole lot of weapon skins.

Tyla · Jan 12, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

no.
/notsigned again

Phoenix Tears · Jan 12, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

I enjoy the BMP, but what really is the point of dsicovery mode? I think it would be nice to make a title track for the Discoveries. Honestly the extra books when books are unlimited is not a reward IMO. So in addition to the new skin, that look better than the GWEN skins, I think there should be a title or a statue at least.
Of course people will say that this isn't fair to those who didn't get the bonus, well guess what, TITLES ARE NOT FAIR. Look at survivor or LDoA.

what a dumb reason... to say the truth.. all you want is just only some more "free" titles.. to raise easier in KoaBD up ...

not signed under these points

under an other concept maybe signed